Herring Imming Proudly Elevates Clark Lammers and Taylor Fuller as Law Partners

Clark A. Lammers
Clark A. Lammers
Taylor G. Fuller
Taylor G. Fuller

Henry Ford famously posited, “[w]hether you think you can, or you think you can’t—you’re right.” Since starting our firm in 2015, Ruston Imming and I “thought we could.” We built Herring Imming into a boutique family law firm, centered in Santa Barbara, Ventura, and San Luis Obispo Counties, with a statewide footprint. We have succeeded in consistently providing our select clientele uniquely attentive service. 

Along the way, were lucky to have added attorneys Clark Lammers and Taylor Fuller. Over the years, both have grown with us, rising as family law stars in their own rights. They have consistently exhibited brains, diligence, enthusiasm, and positivity. Accordingly, they have consistently promoted successful outcomes in our often challenging family law cases. 

These are bedrock traits of our firm. Respecting and appreciating this, Ruston and I proudly announce Clark’s and Taylor’s elevation as our new law partners effective immediately. 

Herring Imming can try any case to conclusion. We settle the overwhelming majority through our courtroom reputation. With Clark and Taylor now partners, we productively strengthen our foundation and amplify our top service. With them, we know we can do even more for our clients, our courts, and our family law community. 

AAML’S NEW FREE EVIDENCE BASICS SEMINAR

Since 2015, the Southern California Chapter of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers has annually presented a comprehensive free program, Trial Basics Seminar. We are proud to announce our new companion program, Evidence Basics Seminar. As with TBS, EBS is geared toward family law lawyers with limited trial experience wanting to learn basic evidence principles and related skills from the AAML’s experts. We present EBS to reach out to our community, improve the skills of less-experienced family law lawyers and give back to our profession.

We will present our inaugural EBS by Zoom all day on Friday, October 2, 2026, 9:00 am to 5:00 pm.

  • Substantial MCLE credits will be provided.
  • Evidence guru, Judge Jackson Lucky (ret.) will moderate.
  • EBS is presented at no charge.

EBS will be a fast-moving event, including approximately twenty presentations throughout the main seminar. The “A-Z” topics range from general concepts of relevance and burdens, documentary and testimonial issues, discovery cross-over considerations, privileges, and practical hearing/trial preparation and strategies.

The AAML was founded in 1962, “[t]o encourage the study, improve the practice, elevate the standards and advance the cause of matrimonial law, to the end that the welfare of the family and society be protected.” Our nearly 1,650 Fellows cover all 50 states.

We recognize each family law case has different needs. We respect the availability of various alternative courses of resolution. But if a case cannot be settled, then the consequence is that the courts are there to decide the issues. Our job is to be prepared to expertly litigate those cases to their logical ends.

Anyone interested in attending EBS may Register Here.

Please feel free to contact me if you might have any questions or comments: Gregory W. Herring, Herring Imming LLP, The Post, 1807 East Cabrillo Blvd., Ste. D, Santa Barbara, California 93108; 805.983.6452 x100; [email protected]. Legal Administrator, Kristiné Kirschke, would also be glad to assist: [email protected].

Greg Herring is the founder and Dean of TBS and EBS. He is a 20-year AAML Fellow.

 

Forensic Accounting in Family Law: Bridging the Communication Gap

By: Gregory W. Herring, CFLS, AAML, IAFL

This follows the May 2026 presentation of the above title given by Molly Warren, CPA (of Gursey Schneider), Ronald Granberg, CFLS, AAML, IAFL, and me at the 49th Symposium of the Northern California Chapter of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers In Napa, California. I started with some practical points:

Forensic accountants are important resources for family lawyers. They assist with:

  • Case consultation and preparation;
  • Streamlining presentations through, for instance, post-separation accounting exhibits (see our PSA exhibit link below), community property balance sheets, and other compilations, and
  • Persuading judicial officers.

They require certain qualifications and operate under professional standards:

  • CPAs performing forensic accounting (litigation) services are subject to Rule 102 of the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants (AICPA): “In the performance of any professional service, a member shall maintain objectivity and integrity, shall be free of conflicts of interest, and shall not knowingly misrepresent facts or subordinate his or her judgment to others.”
  • Complaints for violations of professional standards are subject to investigation by the California Board of Accountancy. And the Board has teeth — the results of Disciplinary Actions are publicly disclosed.

Therefore:

  • It is appropriate to seek a forensic accountant to give you the opinion you need, but
  • It is not appropriate to demand she give you the opinion you need.

Forensic accountants are not turnkey. They Require Management and Control – “Who’s Driving the Bus?” I’m Driving the Bus! – Which means you’re driving the bus!

We present forensic accountants to our distressed and reliant clients — to whom we have the highest of fiduciary duties — Therefore we must supervise our experts’:

  • Fees;
  • Engagement letters;
  • Information – for instance, where are they going to get it? – directly from your client without you in the loop? Either way, you must focus on document management – including streamlining, coordinating and economizing for your client;
  • Pretrial work and organization. See Winternitz v. Winternitz 235 Cal.App.4th 644 (2015) – a cautionary narrative about how an expert’s distressed staff/office arguably compromised a client’s case, and
  • Proposed testimony. This is especially since it can be used against your client:
    • Code of Civil Procedure section 2034.310 subd. (a) allows a party to call an expert who has been designated by another party and has thereafter been deposed.

Ultimately, avoid “handing over” your client’s case to the accountants. You must understand the basic substance of their topic and what you’ll need to provide them.

Fundamental to managing forensic accountants is a strong understanding of the basic laws governing all forensic witnesses. Initially, the Evidence Code provides for two different types of experts:

  • Section 800 lay witnesses, which are outside the scope of this piece, and
  • Section 801 non-lay witnesses — the qualifications for which are stated therein in detail. Ask yourself beforehand: does your retained expert’s proposed testimony qualify under section 801?

The Evidence Code provides two other ways to slice this: section 730 versus 733:

  • Section 730: A court can appoint an expert witness on its own motion or after an appropriate Request for Orders by a party. Ask yourself: are three heads (the court’s expert, your client’s expert, and opposing party’s expert) better and cheaper than two?
  • Consistent with the above point, section 733 allows the retention of a client’s own expert on her own dime.

Code of Civil Procedure section 2034 provides the cookbook for requesting designations of, designating, and formally managing expert witnesses. It is extensive –know it!

At trial, your goal is to get your expert witness’s testimony into evidence and keep out the testimony of your opponent’s expert.

Getting “yours” in:

Qualify her under Evidence Code section 801 (see above). Do this by having your expert initially explain their:

  • General background, experience, education;
  • Pertinent training;
  • Membership in pertinent professional associations;
  • Other pertinent background: teaching positions, publications, lectures, consulting work;
  • Expert witness experience in other trials;
  • History of being qualified as an expert in other cases and counties, and
  • Position concerning the specific application of their background to their immediate assignment.

Then request determination of the expert’s qualifications under section 801 for the matter for which she was engaged. Think twice about potentially stipulating to your expert’s qualifications to testify. If she is new to the particular courtroom, you might instead wish to impress the judge by having her explain the foregoing.

Once you have qualified your expert, lead her through the classic direct examination cookbook:

  • What was your assignment?
  • Did you complete the assignment and form an opinion?
  • What is/are the opinion(s)?
  • What is/are the basis/bases for the opinion(s)?

Know People v. Sanchez (2016) 63 Cal.4th 665: An expert cannot relate as true; case-specific facts asserted in hearsay statements, unless they are independently proven by competent evidence or are covered by a hearsay exception. (Id., at 686.)

Essentially this means, in forming and testifying re her opinion, an expert can:

  • Consider inadmissible hearsay;
  • Rely on inadmissible hearsay;
  • Generally describe inadmissible hearsay,
  • But just not regurgitate the details.

Keeping “theirs” out:

This includes cross examination:

  • Evidence Code section 721(a) provides the basis.
  • Purpose: It is not an argument (those are for closings); it is a surgical strike with two main aspects:
    • Eliciting favorable testimony from the opposing expert by getting them to agree with the facts that support your case-in-chief and are consistent with the theory of your case, and
    • Conducting a destructive cross by asking questions that will discredit the witness or her testimony so the judge will minimize or even disregard it.

Cross-examination techniques include challenging the expert’s:

  • Assumptions: Does the witness really have special knowledge, skill, etc. on the particular subject on which she is to express an opinion?
    • Example: Is a forensic accountant qualified to testify regarding executive compensation?
    • Example: Is he qualified to testify regarding a business valuation?
    • Example Is he qualified to testify regarding “reasonable needs” of child in extraordinary high earner case?
  • Methodology: For instance, did they get cute in deleting discoverable notes?
  • Factual errors, and
  • Reliance on privileged matters.

You can use treatises for impeachment under Evidence Code section 721 subd. (b).

Hypotheticals are useful where the facts and data upon which the expert will base her testimony were either not perceived by her or made known to her at or before trial. For instance, this could include factual developments following her report and prior deposition.

Other challenges to opposing experts include:

  • Code of Civil Procedure section 2034.300 exclusions on objection – for instance, when the witness:
    • Was not properly designated under 2034;
    • Failed to submit an expert witness declaration;
    • Failed to produce reports and writing, or
    • Was not made available for deposition; or for a “reasonable” deposition
  • Motions in Limine.
  • Evidence Code section 802 motions to question expert witnesses regarding their qualifications on voire dire. It allows you to interrupt the other side’s direct examination for this.

Herring Imming Facilitates Another Successful Annual Trial Basics Seminar

Our Southern California Chapter of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers recently presented its tenth annual Trial Basics Seminar. Herring Law Group (Herring Imming’s predecessor) founded the program in 2015. It has become a major annual educational event for California’s family law community. We are pleased to continually host eager and focused family law lawyers toward improving their courtroom skills.

It has been said that each family law case has different needs. We recognize the availability of various alternative courses of resolution. But we believe that if a case cannot be settled, then the consequence is that the courts are there to decide the issues. Our job is to be prepared to expertly litigate those cases to their logical ends.

TBS has been blessed each year by the presence of family law guru and friend, Garrett Dailey, as our moderator. Garrett’s contributions to California family law through his Attorney’s Briefcase legal research and update service, annual Family Law Boot Camp, Family Law 101 presentation, and Year in Review seminars are unparalleled. His advocacy in the trial and appellate courts is legendary.

TBS is a fast-moving event. We gave a whopping 25 presentations throughout the day. Topics ranged from Pre-trial Discovery Planning to Appellate Considerations. Our audience of nearly 350 continually interacted with us via Zoom’s “Q&A” feature.

One week following the “main event” Zoom presentation, we held an in-person Practicum at UC Irvine Law School. Leigh Galyon and Marshall Waller led it. The Honorable Dianna Gould-Saltman (ret.) and the Honorable Scott Gordon (ret.) highlighted it with their respective presence and energy. Having these highly experienced and respected judges assisting our “hands on” teaching raised the Practicum to the next level!

Sincere thanks to all our presenters: Garrett, Andrew Botros, Gordon Cruse, Leigh, Annette Hall, Sandy Mayberry, Shannon Miles, Claudia Ribet, Kyle Siems, Marshall, Alexander Payne, Robert Benavente, Lisa McCall, Jillian Duggan-Herd, and Justice Sheila Prell-Sonenshine (ret.).

Supporting TBS during our monthslong ramp-up through the “main event” and the Practicum was one of HI’s Legal Administrators, Kristiné Kirschke. No way TBS would succeed as it does without her! I served as the annual Dean and as a presenter, too.

HI believes trial skills directly encourage settlements. There is nothing like a trial deadline, a list of pretrial tasks and issues, and capable counsel ready to “do what is needed” to generate settlement anxiety in an opposing party. We settle the vast majority of our cases because others know what we can do.

In the ten years of TBS, we have educated over 2,000 family law attorneys throughout California! Making it all sweeter is that we present TBS at no cost. We provide substantial Mandatory Continuing Legal Education Credits to boot! It remains a huge pleasure and honor to continue serving, sponsoring, and facilitating TBS.